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Questions & Answers

What is your success rate?

This is an important question to ask when looking for the outfitter book with. Many hunters make the mistake of booking with an outfitter solely on the price of the hunt. Did you know that the average outfitter in the Midwest is only 20% successful? With your help, we will grow our hunting in Kansas and Ohio. Both of these areas can yield excellent quality bucks. Maine results can vary from year to year based on many factors. Factors that affect our overall success include crops and harvest, weather, quality of hunters, and quantity of game. You will have a difficult time finding a fair chase outfitter that can top our results. The guides we have in Maine have been guiding bear clients for 35 years. We are by far your best option for an Indiana whitetail hunt. There are a lot of quality bucks on our Kansas and Ohio properties. 

 

Below are the results and data from our past three seasons of Indiana semi-guided hunts. Only one opportunity is counted per hunter even though the hunter may have had multiple opportunities. An opportunity is a clear shot at a 125" or larger buck from 30 yards or less with a bow and 150 yards or less with a gun.

 

WEAPON # HUNTERS OPPORTUNITY/KILL KILL

 

2011 Bow 23 15/23- 65% 9/23- 39%
2011 Gun 26 15/26- 58% 10/26- 38%
2011 Muzzleloader 0 0- 0% 0- 0%
2011 Bow/Gun 6 6/6- 100% 3/6- 50%
2011 Season 55 36/55- 65% 22/55 -40%
2010 Season 58 40/58- 69% 19/58- 33%
2009 Season  63  43/63- 68%  26/63- 41%
Members 15/58- 26% 11/15- 73% 8/15- 53%

Can you explain to me the difference between your hunts?


Location: North-Central Indiana South-Eastern Indiana South- Central Ohio North-Central Kansas Maine- Allagash Region
Counties: Cass/ Carroll/ White Franklin Adams Clay, Dickenson, Geary- Unit 8 Allagash Wilderness Area
Acres: 13,500+ Privately Owned  617 Privately Owned 600 Privately Owned 2,000+ Private/ 20,000+ Public 2.5 Million
Guided: Semi- Guided Self- Guided Semi- Guided Semi-guided Semi-Guided
Terrain: 90% Ag, mixed terrain, small woodlots 15% Ag, thickets, heavily wooded, varying terrain 99% hardwoods, varying terrain, footplots, corn feeders Rolling- ag, crp, creek bottoms Wilderness Forrest
# of Properties: 60+ 2 2 1 private/ multiple public 2
License Cost: Over the counter or online purchase- $150 over the counter or online purchase- $150 $125 hunting license + $24 deer permit 322.50 permit +72.50 annual hunt $139 Big Game Lic. $74 Bear Permit
Hunts: 6 Day- Full season memberships Full season lease 5 1/2 Day bow or 4 day muzzleloader 5 1/2 Day- Memberships 5 Day
Advantage: Memberships/ pre-rut/ rut/ post rut hunting  Time- hunt anytime during bow, firearm, muzzleloader Area is set up for trophy bow hunters, lodging and meals included Vast Area- World Class Trophies Vast Area- World Class Trophies
Lodging and Meals: local motels/ hotels, lake house, restaurants Local motels/restaurants or bring trailer and food Lodging and home cooked meals Included Hotel/ Motel- restaurants Included
Guides: 5 Guides- 3 hunting areas  You and on- site proprietor 1- on-site proprietor Operations Manager + 4 Guides Maine Certified Guide and Outfitter
Weapons: Bow, firearm, muzzleloader Bow, firearm, muzzleloader Bow, muzzleloader only Bow, Rifle, Muzzleloader, Turkey Bow, Rifle, Muzzle, Pistol, X-Bow
# Of Annual Hunters: 50-60 12 20-25 30-40 60-80
Kill Average: 125" 125" 130" 130-140" 200 Pounds
Size minimum: 125"  125"  125"  125" 60 Pounds
Food Plots: Mainly agricultural fields/ A few food plots You are allowed to plant them A Couple food plots in Alfalfa and Feeders Crop Fields and Feeders N/A-  Active bait Sites
Stands: We provide portable/ ladder/ blinds/ etc. You provide your own We provide or you can bring your own Ladder, hang on, ground blinds Ladder stands/ Ground Blinds
Broadhead Policy: Fixed Only Fixed or Mechanical Fixed or Mechanical Fixed or Mechanical Fixed or Mechanical
Crossbow Policy: Late bow season or with permit in early season Late bow season or with permit in early season legal in early archery season Legal starting in rifle season Legal to hunt bear
Doe Policy: Gun seasons only- the limit varies per county Any time during the season- limit 1 Any time during the season- limit 2 1 doe- extra license cost N/A
Wound Policy: A wound is a Kill Hunt Continuation after effort to track is made Hunt Continuation after effort to track is made Wound is a kill Hunt continuation after tracking effort
Processing: Included in price of hunt Place to process available Place to process available Included Included
Price Range: $1,500-$2,500 $750 (single tract)- $12,000 (16 tracts)  $1750-$2000 $1,000-$4,000 $1,750- $2,500
Largest Buck Taken: 180 3/8"  150" Class 173 2/8" 175" Over 600 Pounds
Military Discount: 5% 5% 5% 5% N/A
Re-book Policy: Return hunter has first right of refusal on hunt Return hunter has first right of refusal on tract(s) Return hunter has first right of refusal on week Return hunter has first rights Return hunter has first rights
Area Notoriety: Harvey Buck- #2 Muzzleloader in the world  Excellent opportunity for P & Y/ B & C bucks  "Amish Buck"- 295 7/8" A top trophy area in the Midwest 35 Years Experience Over 2,500 kills
Turkey Hunting: Currently not offered Currently not offered 3 Day Hunts- $750- meals/lodging included 2-3 day spring hunts Currently not offered

Where does your hunting take place?

Our whitetail hunting takes place on tightly controlled, well managed private leases in north-central and south-east Indiana, north-central Kansas, south-central Ohio, and northern Maine. We also guide hunters on public property in north-central Kansas. The terrain can vary greatly by hunting area. We hunt natural funnels on the edge of bedding and feeding areas, small woodlots, large woodlots, river bottoms, crp, fencerows, ditches and agricultural fields. Our hunts are 100% fair chase.

What is the cost of a license for non-resident hunters?

Non-resident licenses are available over the counter or online for Indiana, Maine, and Ohio. Kansas is a draw state. Make sure to apply for Unit 8.

 

Indiana- The cost is $150 for each of the following seasons- bow, firearm, and muzzleloader. An additional $150 license is required to shoot a doe. After the first doe tag, each subsequent bonus antlerless tag is $24.
 
Kansas- Whitetail hunters will need a Nonresident Hunting License which costs $72.50 and a Nonresident whitetail permit valid for UNIT 8, which costs $322.50.  Nonresident whitetail permits are distributed by drawing, but for the past several years every hunter that has applied has been drawn.  The application period for 2012 is April 1-27th.  Leftover permits are available on a first come first serve basis and did sell out in the 2011 season. Bonus antlerless permits are $52.50 (limit 1). Turkey hunters will need a Nonresident Hunting License which costs $72.50 and turkey permit for $32.50. The second permit is $22.50. We hunt unit 2 for turkey.
 
 
Maine- The cost is for a Maine bear hunting license cost is $139.00 for your big game hunting license and $74.00 for your bear permit for a total cost of $213.00
 
 
Ohio- The cost is $125 for an annual hunting license and $24 for a deer permit. Antlerless permits can be purchased for $15. The turkey license cost is $125 for an annual hunting license and $24 for a turkey permit. The second permit is also $24.

A complete listing of Indiana and Ohio regulations can be found at:
 

 

What is the best time to come and hunt?

Hunts are listed under the rates and dates page. We strive to provide opportunity and offer many different hunts ranging from 5 days to memberships. We mainly hunt whitetails during the prime time pre-rut, rut, and post/ secondary rut. Our bear hunts occur for 4 consecutive weeks during the Maine fall bear season.

How many Hunters do you take a week?

We will only be offering a limited number of hunts for 2012. We have the ability to take many more hunters, but feel that total quality of the hunt must not be compromised for long term success. Our promise to you is to not over hunt any of our properties. Once we feel we have reached the carrying capacity per hunt, we will not sell any more, or lease additional property. The Indiana hunts are limited per hunt or number or hunters is limited on the self-guided leases.
 

What is a Membership Hunt?

We offer two different memberships in Indiana and Kansas for serious trophy hunters. Memberships are semi-guided which means they are treated as a regular hunt, only for a longer period of time. Memberships included are:

 

Indiana Bow Membership- October 1st- November 15th- 46 days- $2,000

Kansas Bow Memberships- September 17th - December 31st - 106 Days- $3,000

Kansas Muzzleloader  Memberships- September 17th-30th, November 28th- December 9th- 26 Days- $4,000

Kansas Rifle Memberships- November 28th- December 9th- 12 Days- $3,500

 

Memberships are designed to give you the highest opportunity possible to harvest the trophy of your choice. You will be assigned 1-2 guides in a large area and have the ability to hunt multiple farms during your hunt. You can hunt as many days as you wish within designated time periods. We request that you let us know upon arrival the caliber of buck you are looking for and we will work together to help you achieve your goal.

What is an Indiana combo hunt?

We offer a combo hunt as one of our Indiana semi-guided hunts which allows a hunter the ability to harvest a trophy buck with a bow or gun. You can still only harvest 1 buck total on this hunt, but now have the opportunity to hunt both rut archery and firearms in the same week. This is a 6 1/2 day hunt. You purchase a bow license and hunt for 4 1/2 days. If you don't harvest within that time period, you purchase another license for the opening weekend of gun. Again, this is not a combo hunt for 2 bucks, but a hunt during peak rut with up to 2 different weapons for one trophy buck. In 2011 we sold out of this hunt with 6 hunters harvesting 3 nice bucks and the other 3 hunters having an opportunity. The 2012 combo is scheduled November 12th- 18th.

What is the difference between the Kansas private and public land?

We offer both semi-guided private and public ground hunts in Kansas. The private ground is 2,000+ contiguous acres. The public ground is scattered and roughly 20,000+ acres located around the Milford Lake region. Both the private and public ground are good choices for hunts. The only difference is we cannot stop a trespasser on public ground. We compensate our hunters for this by offering lower prices compared with our private ground hunts. The potential to harvest a trophy buck exists in both areas. Kansas only sells a certain number of tags for Unit 8 and our region is managed very well for trophy bucks.

How much pressure is there and will I be around other hunters?

First, our whitetail hunting areas are just as good as what most well known areas in other trophy producing states were 10-15 years ago.  We have the ability to take many more hunters but feel that quality and long term trophy potential are more important. The most pressure that our whitetail areas encounter are the last week of bow season and the first week or firearms. We may place hunters near each other at certain times to kill certain deer that we have patterned. For the most part, there is little pressure compared to other recognized trophy producing areas. It seems that a lot of big bucks in our areas are more likely to be killed by a car than by a hunter. Our trophy bear hunts are extremely remote so pressure is not really an issue at all as we hunt the vast area of 2.5 million acres in Northern Maine.

Do you offer military discounts?

We offer a 5% discount on whitetail hunts for retired or active duty military personnel. We truly appreciate your service to our country and it would be an honor to host you as our guest this fall.

When hunting with Camp Kay Outfitters what should I bring?

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  • Hunt Item Checklist: 
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  • Sleeping bag 
  • Towel and washcloth
  • Personal items
  • Rain gear 
  • Weather Appropriate Clothing
  • Rubber Boots- Mandatory
  • Weapon and ammunition 
  • Binoculars/ range finder- archers 
  • Camera 
  • Orange Vest and Hat - Gun seasons only
  • Day Pack 
  • Flashlight/ flashlight with red lens for walking to or from the stand.  
  • GPS for your vehicle- Garmin, Tom Tom- Mandatory  for Indiana and Kansas semi-guided
  • Cooler
  • Comfortable seat cushion for elevated stands, portable chair for ground blinds 
  • Stand- Ohio, Indiana self-guided

 

 

 

 

When are deposits and final payment due?

A hunt is not considered booked until we have received a sufficient deposit at our main office- 1870 N. 375 E. Monticello, In 47960. Our deposit requirements are as follows: Hunters booking more than one year in advance are required to pay an initial deposit of $250 and an additional anount totaling 50% by January 1, of the year in which the hunt takes place and 50% 60 days prior to your arrival date. Hunters booking for the present year are required to pay a minimum deposit of $250 to confirm the hunt. All final payments are due 60 days prior to your hunt date unless other arrangements are made. Book your hunt early to secure the time that fits your needs and schedule.

Do you have a cancellation policy?

It is our desire to fill all openings "spots" on each hunt. Once you book a hunt and send a deposit, you are then 100% liable for the entire cost of the hunt. If you need to cancel a hunt, you must let us know as soon as possible. If cancelled, your 2012 deposit money will be used as a deposit only for a 2013 Camp Kay Outfitters hunt at thesame location. You will be responsible for the difference in hunt costs if this occurs.

What is your policy on wounded/ lost game?

Every hunter is required to shoot their weapon upon arrival and before hunting at each hunt location. This is a very significant component of our deer management objective, which is to provide trophy opportunities for trophy hunters on our leased property. We understand that weapons, sights, and scopes could potentially be damaged in transit. Familiarity and confidence in your weapon, bow or gun, is critically important for this hunt. You are required to contact your guide upon pulling the trigger on any deer. It now becomes our responsibility to help you find it. We will do everything possible to help you locate and retrieve your trophy. However, we have to treat wounded animals as possibly harvested animals. We have policies for wounded game that are area specific and either include hunt continuation, or hunt termination/ automatic booking. It is ultimately up to the discresion of Camp Kay Outfitters for how and when these policies will be enforced, but to be fair to all clients, they most likely will be enforced.
 
Hunt Continuation- (Maine, Ohio, Indiana- Self-guided)
After pulling the trigger on a buck or bear, you may not shoot another animal until you have contacted your guide and every effort has been made to recover your animal. If we are unsuccessful in retrieval, you may continue hunting after making sure that your weapon is sighted in. We expect nothing less than 100% honesty from our hunters so if we find out that a client shot at or shot an animal and failed to let us know, their hunt will be over.
 
Hunt Termination/ Automatic Rebooking- (Indiana & Kansas Semi-guided)
After pulling the trigger on a buck, you must contact your guide so he may access the situation and help you recover your buck. If you wound a buck and together we are unable to find it, your hunt is over. If we find your arrow with no blood present, you may continue to hunt. A shot with a gun at a buck is considered a hit. We strongly suggest that you practice with your weapon before your hunt and take only high percentage shots while hunting. If you disagree with this policy then think about the following scenario: You pay us for a job (The hunt). We complete that job beyond your satisfaction (We gave you an opportunity and you were happy with that opportunity because you pulled the trigger). Would you expect us to do the same job again for free?
We are a high quality outfitter promoting high quality hunting to high quality hunters. Therefore, if you would like to book another hunt at the same or different Camp Kay Outfitter's location, we will allow you to continue hunting. A booked hunt is a signed hunting agreement along with a deposit for a minimun of $250.

If I don't get one do I get my money back?

We offer free range fair chase hunting. You are paying us for the opportunity to hunt for trophy bucks and bears in our areas at different times throughout the season. Though your odds of killing a trophy buck or bear with us are very good compared with our competitors in other known trophy producing areas, we cannot guarantee you a buck or bear or even an opportunity. Hunting is unique because it is unlike any other known commodity. Killing, on the other hand is a known commodity. If you want a quality hunting experience then come hunt with us.

Why don't you allow mechanical broadheads for Indiana bow hunts?

It has been our experience that mechanical broadheads do not have the penetration especially on poor shot placement. We have seen many wounds occur with mechanicals the last few years and found many mechanicals and blades in deer in past seasons. We have no doubts that in a perfect hunting scenario mechanicals may work perfectly fine. We place a lot of effort into patterning good bucks and feel that fixed broadheads are more effective. Many other outfitters and states also prohibit the use of mechanicals as well. In 2011, every buck shot with a fixed broadhead in Indiana was recovered.

What types of stands are used, and can I bring my own stand?

Our stands are either stick/portables, ladder, or box/ground blinds. The amount of stands and when we use particular types of stands vaies by location and time of the year. We understand that you may be used to a certain style or brand of stand but ask that you use our stands because they have already been set and the less disruption the better your odds are of harvesting a trophy. Please bring your favorite seat cushion with you for your comfort and convenience. You may bring your own stand on our Ohio and Indiana self-guided hunts.

Why can't I bring my own stand for Indiana and Kansas hunts?

Our success at Camp Kay Outfitters is rooted from a specific program that consistently generates results. Stands are positioned early in the year near known travel routes. We stay out of these areas as much as possible in order to maximize our success. It is in our best interest to place you in the best stands available during various times of the year. We will have extra stands available and slight adjustments can be made by the guides only.

Is meat processing included?

Processing of your buck or bear is included in the price of your hunt for Indiana semi-guided, Kansas, and Maine hunts. You are responsible for processing with our self-guided hunts and processing is available but not included in our Ohio hunts. If you take your meat with you, you will need to bring coolers to do so. We will skin, quarter, process, and bag your deer or bear according to your specifications. 

How much do I tip my guide?

We are often asked, "How much do I leave my guide as a tip?" This is a hard question to answer because a gratuity is left to show consideration for a job well done. Everyone's opinion of what that is worth is a bit different. We don't demand anything but appreciate everything. From our experience, the following is a good rule of thumb. If you, the client, feel that your guide worked hard for you, was knowledgeable about the hunting, and did everything in his control to ensure you had an enjoyable quality hunt, then no less than 10-15% of the cost of the hunt is what we suggest, and is more or less the industry standard. Remember that successful deer hunting is not a seasonal job. Months of glassing fields, knowing how and when deer move, setting stands, and placing you on a trophy buck is a difficult yet gratifying task. Please consider this, our guides scout on their own time year round, usually making several trips, to provide our clients the best opportunity at a trophy whitetails. They live in the area and also use their own vehicles and personal equipment (i.e. binoculars, spotting scopes, cameras, etc). Again, we want to reiterate that a tip is a personal expression of gratitude, therefore a definitive value is difficult to determine, however for those who pose the "how much" question, these are simply some industry guidelines that we have observed, and feel that it would be helpful information to you, our client.

Can you tell me about your staff and leases?

As with any successful outfitter, the principles of success are, first, the country he is fortunate enough to hunt, and secondly, the quality and knowledge of the guides he has representing his organization. We don't mean to brag but we have the staff and leases that deserve to be bragged about. The leased farms for Indiana semi-guided are scattered throughout 3 counties. This is advantageous for many reasons, but primarily not having all the ground in one piece ensures trophy whitetail hunting for years to come. The Indiana self-guided property is completely different in landscape from our semi-guided hunts. Both our Indiana self-guided and Ohio hunts offer huge tracts of hardwoods where great bucks exist but are less visible and therefore potentially more difficult to hunt. We hunt both private and public land in Kansas and the landscape is a rolling mix of terrain containing primarily agriculture, grasslands, and creek and river bottoms. Maine is a vast wilderness of softwood forest.

The quality of our guides is second to none, not only as guides, but as people. They work hard every minute of every day and with great enthusiasm. When you arrive, guide(s) will be assigned to you. (semi-guided hunts) Listen to them and know that they have your best interest at heart. They are the best hunters in our areas and know what it takes to be successful on our hunts. Visit our staff page for pictures.

How do your hunts work?

Indiana and Kansas Semi-guided hunts- You are required to arrive at an agreed upon location before noon the on your arrival day. You will then sign a waiver of liability, sight in your weapon, attend an orientation meeting, and have time to go with your guide to the location where you will be hunting. You will be given a permission slip for your vehicle and will be responsible for your own transportation to and from the farms. You will need a vehicle GPS to do this. The driving distances are generally 10-25 minutes from your lodging. You must contact your guide after every hunt morning and/or evening for safety and/or assistance. It will be his discretion on moving you to a different stand based on what area you are hunting and what type of buck you want to harvest. You are paying for the opportunity to hunt trophy whitetails. Your guide is your best friend for the week (or maybe a lifetime) because he has done everything that he would do for himself including all the scouting work and stand placement. All you have to do is show up and hunt where he tells you. He will help you find and retrieve your deer, as well as check it in, and help you hang it up for pictures. Buck processing is included but license, meals, lodging, and gratuities are not included. 
 
Indiana- self-guided- Our self guided hunts are set up for you to come and go as you please. Basically, you buy tract(s) of ground, and place stands where you believe the best opportunity exists or where you feel comfortable hunting. You then will have the ability to hunt for 1 buck and 1 doe for all of archery, firearm, and muzzleloader seasons.
 
Ohio semi-guided- These hunts are all- inclusive. You arrive and stay in a lodge that is on the same property you will be hunting. Our hunts are primarily set up for trophy bow hunting but we also offer a few late season muzzleloader hunts. The hunts are 5 days with the exception of the muzzleloader hunt which is a 4 day hunt. You will be given an arrival/ scouting day, and then hunt for the rest of your stay. All meals are home cooked and will be waiting for you when you’re finished hunting or prepared before you go out. Deer processing is available but not included.
 
Maine-Black Bear hunts- These hunts are all inclusive. You arrive on a sunday before noon and un-pack at your cabin. An orrientation meeting will take place and you will be required to shoot your weapon. typically we hunt in the afternoon starting monday and finishing up on friday. We will pick you up and drive you to your hunting area and walk you to and from your stand. We only hunt over active bait sites. The hunts are 5 days and meat processing is included. On-site taxidermy is also available.

What are the prices of your hunts?

Please look at the rates and dates page for hunt pricing. You are paying for the opportunity to hunt trophy whitetails and black bears. A lot of outfitters can provide you with a lower price hunt. We have found though that quality has no substitute and you get what you pay for in most cases. We have made our hunts affordable, yet highly successful through the generosity and support of others. A large portion of your money is used to buy supplies to continually improve the hunting.

What is the average size/ score of your deer/ bear and what are my odds at a monster?

Our success is hinged on five distinct elements working together. They include: Land, Quality Animals, Quality Guides, Hunting Opportunity, and Hunters.
 
You need the land and enough of it to allow adequate rest and rotation of the area. Camp Kay Outfitters Midwest Whitetail Hunts has 16,700 acres of private hunting land in Indiana, Kansas, and Ohio. More land means more deer and more deer means more opportunities for you. We hunt 2.5 million acres of forest in one of the most remote areas of the country- Northern Maine.
 
If you want a trophy buck or bear, he has to exist in the area where you are hunting. Our hunting areas exist within known trophy producing states. The one buck rule in Indiana, Kansas, and Ohio coupled with excellent genetics has produced monster bucks for many years and will continue to produce the quality of bucks that you can be proud to hang on your wall. Every year we harvest 400 pound and above black bears in our areas.
 
 You need the guides who know how to hunt these particular trophy animals. Our guides are simply the best at what they do. They take into consideration things that most outfitters either ignore or overlook. We won't tell you all the secrets for our success but what we will provide you with is references if you would like. They will tell you to leave your style of hunting at home and let Camp Kay Outfitters show you how to kill a trophy deer. That's what you paid us for isn't it? 
 
You must be given the opportunity to have an opportunity at a trophy buck. Camp Kay Outfitters isn't one of the largest, most successful outfitters in the Midwest by mistake. We were given the opportunity to be the best and subsequently are willing to give you the opportunity to do your best. Opportunity can be summed up with one word-Time. Time means the number of days allowed for hunting during the right period to maximize a hunter's opportunity. We give you the time to hunt effectively regardless of how much time you choose to hunt. Our advice is to spend as much time as possible hunting because you never know when Mr. Big is going to make an appearance. When comparing outfitters and possible hunts, don't just look at the price of the hunt, but the time allotted to harvest a quality whitetail or black bear. We both know that this is a hunt but time given and spent hunting is crucial to a successful hunt.
 
The last element is You. We will give you the opportunity to hunt for trophy animals, guides, land, and the time. We just need you! We hope to have the opportunity to host you in the future. In the mean time please tell other hunters about us. We might be the outfitter they have always dreamed of hunting with.
 

How much do your deer/ bear weigh?

Generally our average buck weighs around 175-220 lbs. dressed. We have harvested deer well over the 200lb mark though. Bears generally average around 200 lbs., and we have harvested a few over 600lbs.

Do you have a fine for shooting a deer/ bear under a certain size or trophy fees?

Camp Kay Outfitters has a size minimum for bucks on all whitetail hunts of 125”. Hunters will be shown a rack of a minimum 125” class buck but should know what a 125” class buck looks like. A hunter will have two options if they harvest a buck below 125”. They can either pay a $500 fine or book a hunt for the following year (same or different state with a $250 deposit toward the hunt cost). If a button buck is harvested, the hunter/ client will also be penalized $500 or can book a hunt for the following year with a $250 deposit toward the hunt price.  A $500 penalty will be enforced on bear hunters who harvest a “wet” sow (sow with cubs), and $1,000 for any bear that weighs 60 pounds or less (live weight). It will ultimately be up to the discretion of Mark Liebner/ Camp Kay Outfitters whether a penalty will be enforced but to be fair to all parties involved a penalty will most likely be enforced.

 

If you are not looking for a trophy whitetail or black bear hunt then please hunt with another outfitter. We do have true trophies to hunt but not everyone is going to be successful. This is hunting not killing. We have no trophy fees for shooting a monster buck or bear.

What weapons are legal for the Indiana firearms season?

You may use a bow, crossbow, muzzleloader, shot gun with slugs, pistol, or rifles that shoot pistol rounds between .357 and .500 caliber with a casing length of no more than 1.8". Standard center-fire rifle cartridges like 30.06 are not allowed.

What is the weather like?

Temperatures fluctuate dramatically during our deer hunting season. Generally in October and November the temperature can range from 30-70 degrees. December weather can be mild or cold. Maine can either be very cool and damp or very warm. Check the weekly forecast before your hunt so you pack clothing for the week that is appropriate.

What is your closest airport?

Indiana-You can either fly into Indianapolis International, Ft. Wayne International, or Chicago Midway for our Indiana semi-guided hunts. They are all 2 hours away.

 

Kansas- Topeka or Wichita are the closest airport for our Kansas hunts. They are 2 hours away.

 

Maine- Presque Isle or Bangor Maine are the closest airports for our Maine bear hunts. They are 2-4 hours away.

 

Ohio- Cincinnati or Columbus are the closest airports for the Ohio hunts. They are each about 2 hours away.

 

 

When is the best time to come hunt?

We put a lot of time and effort into our stand and blind sites, and hunt different set-ups at different times of the season. Some work better during the pre-rut, some during the rut, and others during the post-rut. By doing this, we have great success throughout the season. Therefore, the best hunt is the one that you prefer and which suits your schedule and budget. Most of our deer however are harvested in November.

All four of the bear hunts can be productive. Most of the time the first two weeks are the most productive. Some years an abundance of food occurs in the forest so the later hunts are good.

When is your rut?

Our primary rut usually takes place the 10th-15th of November.

Do you use bait?

We do use bait in Kansas, Maine, and Ohio. It is illegal to hunt over bait in Indiana. We have heavy agriculture though in our areas, and a few food plots.

Why should I hunt with you?

There are many outfitters that do things very differently than us. We provide quality deer/ bear, great guides, plenty of land, and time in the woods all at an affordable price. Each hunt we provide is very unique yet enjoyable. We would be happy to provide you with references of successful and unsuccessful hunters whom we have hosted. We hope that you have an opportunity to be part of our continued success. You are very important to us. We've put a lot of pride and effort into our work so, as a serious trophy hunter, you will have the most enjoyable, memorable and successful hunt we can offer. We consider ourselves to be one of the most professional outfitters in the country and hope to see you soon!!!

What are my lodging and meal options for your hunts?

Our recommended accommodations include the following:
 
Indiana- Semi-guided- Lakehouse rental-(630)-624-4130, Cass County Lodge- (907)-748-4151, Pine View Resort or Pine View Eagle's Nest (4 bedroom condo)- (574) 583-7733, or Best Western - (574) 583-6333, bring an RV or 5th wheel trailer. Meals can either be purchased at local restaurants or food can be purchased at the grocery store.
 
Indiana- Self-guided- Oxbarn lodge- (765) 960-8674, Grapevine Inn- Metamora (765) 647-3738, Hampton Inn- Batesville- (812) 934-6262, Comfort Inn- Batesville- (812) 934-6185. Meals can either be purchased at local restaurants or food can be purchased at the grocery store.
 
 
Kansas- Semi-guided- Holiday Inn Express- Abilene- (785) 263-4049, Super 8 Motel- Abilene- (785) 263-4545, America's Best Value Inn- (785) 263-2050, Budget Inn- Abilene- (785) 263-3600. Meals can either be purchased at local restaurants or food can be purchased at the grocery store.
 
Maine- Lodging and Meals are included in our hunts.
 
Ohio- Lodging and Meals are included in our hunts.